{"content":"<div class=\"discussion__comments\"><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5777\" data-id=\"5777\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Tom\u00e1\u0161<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T17:46:50+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 17:46<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Na tohle netrp\u011bliv\u011b \u010dek\u00e1m, kde jsou plni\u010dky? Tedy 1,6kWh baterka je u Nexa mal\u00e1 a ned\u00e1 se dob\u00edjet (t\u0159eba z p\u0159ebytk\u016f fotovoltaiky), ale a\u017e ud\u011blaj\u00ed vod\u00edkov\u00fd elektropluginhybrid s tak 8 kWh baterkou, tak to bude auto sn\u016f.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5778\" data-id=\"5778\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">VB<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T17:52:43+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 17:52<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">To u\u017e se vyr\u00e1b\u00ed Mercedes,mam dojem \u017ee to m\u00e1 24kwh baterku, hledej na jejich str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch!<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5782\" data-id=\"5782\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/smurfx\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-53UeYFYhDO8\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAKE\/AiXwQAlqBNY\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Martin Pultzner\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/smurfx\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Martin Pultzner <span class=\"discussion__comment__title\">(redaktor fDrive.cz)<\/span><\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T19:41:47+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 19:41<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">V\u00fdroba tohoto auta byla ji\u017e ukon\u010dena a Mercedes ukon\u010dil v\u00fdvoj a v\u00fdrobu vod\u00edkov\u00fdch aut jako neperspektivn\u00ed.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5779\" data-id=\"5779\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">VB<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T17:56:22+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 17:56<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">GLC F-cell - to je on \ud83d\udc4d<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5780\" data-id=\"5780\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/marektomisek\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh6.googleusercontent.com\/-cAORQ3TEG8M\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AAKWJJNKYyVl2R85HFR0py9D-hM43z8IUA\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Marek Tom\u00ed\u0161ek\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/marektomisek\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Marek Tom\u00ed\u0161ek <span class=\"discussion__comment__title\">(redaktor fDrive.cz)<\/span><\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T18:05:32+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 18:05<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Ano, GLC F-cell je zaj\u00edmav\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed. A\u017e tu otev\u0159ou tu plnic\u00ed stanici, tak to rozhodn\u011b bude lep\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e pouze vod\u00edkov\u00e9 auto, proto\u017ee majitel nebude z\u00e1visl\u00fd jen na jedn\u00e9 stanici. Natankuje, ale dojezd si bude prodlu\u017eovat nab\u00edjen\u00edm.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5783\" data-id=\"5783\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Dave<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T22:42:46+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 22:42<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Zat\u00edm nev\u00edm v\u016fbec nic, a\u017e bude zn\u00e1ma ofici\u00e1ln\u00ed cena auta, re\u00e1ln\u00fd dojezd, cena paliva a spot\u0159eba, tak se o tom teprve m\u016f\u017eeme za\u010d\u00edt bavit...<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5784\" data-id=\"5784\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">VB<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T22:49:00+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 22:49<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Cena vod\u00edku vych\u00e1zela  asi p\u0159ed 1.5 rokem v N\u011bmecku na 2.5kc\/km ,nic extra<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5789\" data-id=\"5789\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Matiak<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T09:45:15+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 09:45<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Cena pod 2 mega, n\u00e1dr\u017e 700bar \u2013 6,3kg, okrskov\u00e1 spot\u0159eba vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e 1kg\/100km. (men\u0161\u00ed mirai re\u00e1ln\u011b na okrsk\u00e1ch 1,2-1,4kg). \u017divotnost n\u00e1dr\u017ee 8 let, 2x ro\u010dn\u011b kontrola tlakov\u00e9ho syst\u00e9mu. (\u017eivotnost palivov\u00e9ho \u010dl\u00e1nku netu\u0161\u00edm, je\u0161t\u011b p\u0159ed p\u00e1r lety \u2013 50000km). Dle jedin\u00e9ho mn\u011b zn\u00e1m\u00e9ho testu je nad 90km\/h je tak leniv\u00e9, \u017ee se ned\u00e1 bezpe\u010dn\u011b p\u0159edj\u00ed\u017ed\u011bt\u2026<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5790\" data-id=\"5790\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100644452267113866082\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/-yzYmjyHBm5E\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAJ4\/eIyUfgH5Cn8\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Evolt\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100644452267113866082\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Evolt<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T12:52:03+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 12:52<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__updated\">Naposledy upraveno: 14.\u20096.\u20092020 12:52<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Vod\u00edkov\u00e1 auta prost\u011b nejsou pro bateriov\u00e9 elektromobily \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 konkurence.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5785\" data-id=\"5785\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">pokjos<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-13T22:59:12+02:00\">13.\u20096.\u20092020 22:59<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">A co podzemn\u00ed gar\u00e1\u017ee? Na ty budou m\u00edt vod\u00edkov\u00e1 auta v\u00fdjimkou? ;0)<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5786\" data-id=\"5786\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Alda<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T00:24:49+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 00:24<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">nen\u00ed to LPG. Vod\u00edk (H2) je leh\u010d\u00ed ne\u017e vzduc.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5791\" data-id=\"5791\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">RoB<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T13:09:44+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 13:09<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Mo\u017en\u00e1,  \u017ee kdybyste v\u011bd\u011bl, pro\u010d n\u011bkter\u00e1 auta nem\u016f\u017eou do PODZEMN\u00cdCH gar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed, tak byste se neptal. Sorry.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5798\" data-id=\"5798\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Frend<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T20:26:40+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 20:26<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Zkuste si zjistit, pro\u010d CNG do podzemn\u00edch gar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed m\u016f\u017ee a pro\u010d LPG ne-e. Pak dostanete odpov\u011b\u010f i na va\u0161i ot\u00e1zku.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5803\" data-id=\"5803\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100644452267113866082\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/-yzYmjyHBm5E\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAJ4\/eIyUfgH5Cn8\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Evolt\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100644452267113866082\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Evolt<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T21:38:52+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 21:38<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Podle toho, co jsem vid\u011bl naposledy u vjezdu do podzemn\u00edch gar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed tam CNG auta tak\u00e9 nem\u016f\u017eou.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5833\" data-id=\"5833\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/marektomisek\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh6.googleusercontent.com\/-cAORQ3TEG8M\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AAKWJJNKYyVl2R85HFR0py9D-hM43z8IUA\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Marek Tom\u00ed\u0161ek\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/marektomisek\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Marek Tom\u00ed\u0161ek <span class=\"discussion__comment__title\">(redaktor fDrive.cz)<\/span><\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-16T19:20:19+02:00\">16.\u20096.\u20092020 19:20<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">LPG nesm\u00ed prakticky nikam, ale CNG taky nesm\u00ed do cca poloviny gar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed. Ve zbytku Evropy ale v\u011bt\u0161inou m\u016f\u017ee. Tak\u017ee vod\u00edk, kter\u00fd je rozhodn\u011b nebezpe\u010dn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e CNG ur\u010dit\u011b v \u010cesku nebude sm\u011bt nikam ;-)<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5793\" data-id=\"5793\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">David<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T13:39:27+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 13:39<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">\u017d\u00e1dn\u00e9 zna\u010dky ned\u00e1vat,sta\u010d\u00ed \u017ee se ten kr\u00e1m Korejskej Hnujdajskej v\u016fbec prod\u00e1v\u00e1 V CR at si ho nechaj\u00ed  odkud prislo<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5800\" data-id=\"5800\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Jo\u017eka<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T21:10:10+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 21:10<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Ner\u00fdpej do Hyundai, m\u00e1m ho 14 let bez z\u00e1vad. P\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011b si koup\u00edm zase tuto zna\u010dku.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5825\" data-id=\"5825\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">P.<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-16T11:10:41+02:00\">16.\u20096.\u20092020 11:10<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Roztomil\u00e9, nezn\u00e1m nikoho, komu by Hyundai vydr\u017eel 14 let bez z\u00e1vad. Pokud to teda nen\u00ed jen n\u011bjak\u00fd Getz, s kter\u00fdm se jezd\u00ed jednou za t\u00fdden do Kauflandu a o v\u00edkendu na chatu 20km od bydli\u0161t\u011b. A za 14 rok\u016f najeto 20k km :) . Jednoho takov\u00e9ho zn\u00e1m, m\u00e1 Dustera jen na jezd\u011bn\u00ed na zahradu, n\u00e1jezd asi 1000km za rok, ale na Dacii ned\u00e1 dopustit, je to geni\u00e1ln\u00ed bezporuchov\u00e9 auto! :)<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5794\" data-id=\"5794\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">SVN<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">2<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T15:00:13+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 15:00<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Je to dob\u0159e napsan\u00e9, elektromobil s palivov\u00fdmi \u010dl\u00e1nky na vod\u00edk. Akor\u00e1t \u017ee, tam mus\u00ed b\u00fdt i ta baterie. Nen\u00ed ale tak velik\u00e1. V podstat\u011b krom\u011b ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed hmotnosti baterie je to jeden probl\u00e9m nav\u00edc vedle druh\u00e9ho. V\u00fdroba \u010dist\u00e9ho vod\u00edku pro \u010dl\u00e1nky je drah\u00e1, stla\u010dov\u00e1n\u00ed a chlazen\u00ed vod\u00edku na -270 \u00b0C jeho udr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159i t\u00e9to teplot\u011b a zaji\u0161t\u011bn\u00ed bezpe\u010dnosti, taky drah\u00e9. Sed\u011bti na bomb\u011b v aut\u011b se spoustou trubi\u010dek a ventil\u016f, taky nic moc. Do gar\u00e1\u017ee se s t\u00edm nebude sm\u011bt. Palivov\u00fd \u010dl\u00e1nek je drah\u00fd a nevydr\u017e\u00ed v\u011b\u010dn\u011b. Nev\u00edm pro\u010d si komplikovat \u017eivot, kdy\u017e elektromobil ve stejn\u00e9 cenov\u00e9 relaci ujede 500 km na jedno nabit\u00ed a skoro zadarmo.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5814\" data-id=\"5814\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Ji\u0159\u00ed<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-15T22:14:58+02:00\">15.\u20096.\u20092020 22:14<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Nemysl\u00edm si, \u017ee je nutn\u00e9 stla\u010dovat kosti\u010dky vod\u00edku o  -270 \u00b0C :-D<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5795\" data-id=\"5795\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Xspy<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T15:46:21+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 15:46<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Kde je ta alternativa k benz\u00ednu a naft\u011b ? Elekt\u0159ina se mus\u00ed tak\u00e9 vyrobit a pokud nen\u00ed z j\u00e1dra \u010di bioplynu nejde o ekologick\u00fd provoz ani n\u00e1hodou .Jak to bude s vod\u00edkem ?<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5797\" data-id=\"5797\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">VB<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">3<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T18:08:04+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 18:08<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Benz\u00edn i naftu nevyrobis bez elektriky \ud83d\ude01<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5802\" data-id=\"5802\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100644452267113866082\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh5.googleusercontent.com\/-yzYmjyHBm5E\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAJ4\/eIyUfgH5Cn8\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Evolt\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100644452267113866082\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Evolt<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T21:35:35+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 21:35<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">I p\u0159i na\u0161em energetick\u00e9m mixu je elektromobil st\u00e1le mnohem ekologi\u010dt\u011bj\u0161\u00ed v cel\u00e9 sv\u00e9 \u017eivotnosti ne\u017e srovnateln\u00e9 spalovac\u00ed auto a v\u0161echny jeho emise kter\u00e9 vypust\u00ed jsou nep\u0159\u00edm\u00e9. Vod\u00edkov\u00e9 auto celkem spot\u0159ebuje 3x - 4x v\u00edce energie na ujet\u00ed 1 km ne\u017e elektromobil, s t\u00edm, \u017ee p\u0159i provozu \u010dist\u00ed vzduch.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5804\" data-id=\"5804\"  data-offtopic=\"1\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Reditelplanety@centrum.cz<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-14T21:40:51+02:00\">14.\u20096.\u20092020 21:40<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">V\u0161em, kdo jsou tak l\u00edn\u00ed, \u017ee nepoznaj\u00ed co \u010din\u00ed. A proto\u017ee m\u011b svou pohodlnosti a rozmarilosti, sv\u00fdm egoismem zabijite, \u017ee zabijite budoucnost. Tak v\u00e1m v\u0161em lharum p\u0159eji peklo a smrt. Proto\u017ee stav\u00edte sebe nadev\u0161e.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5806\" data-id=\"5806\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">David<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-15T04:03:00+02:00\">15.\u20096.\u20092020 04:03<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Pokud v\u00edm, tak podzemn\u00ed gar\u00e1\u017ee, stejn\u011b jako mont\u00e1\u017en\u00ed kan\u00e1ly jsou pro auta s LPG a CNG zapov\u011bzena proto, \u017ee LPG a CNG jsou t\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e vzduch a dr\u017e\u00ed se u dna. Co\u017e v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b vod\u00edku nehroz\u00ed, proto\u017ee je leh\u010d\u00ed, ne\u017e vzduch.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5834\" data-id=\"5834\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/marektomisek\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh6.googleusercontent.com\/-cAORQ3TEG8M\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AAKWJJNKYyVl2R85HFR0py9D-hM43z8IUA\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Marek Tom\u00ed\u0161ek\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/marektomisek\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Marek Tom\u00ed\u0161ek <span class=\"discussion__comment__title\">(redaktor fDrive.cz)<\/span><\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-16T19:22:36+02:00\">16.\u20096.\u20092020 19:22<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">CNG je tak\u00e9 leh\u010d\u00ed ne\u017e vzduch a do spousty gar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed v \u010cesku nesm\u00ed. Vod\u00edk se nav\u00edc tlakuje mnohem v\u00edce a je mnohem ho\u0159lav\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, tak\u017ee to s podzemn\u00edmi gar\u00e1\u017eemi nevid\u00edm moc optimisticky.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5807\" data-id=\"5807\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Grandik<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-15T09:10:02+02:00\">15.\u20096.\u20092020 09:10<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Domn\u00edv\u00e1m se, \u017ee vod\u00edk bude vhodn\u00fd v\u00fdhradn\u011b pro vozidla s v\u011bt\u0161\u00edm n\u00e1jezdem km, tak\u017ee dod\u00e1vky, n\u00e1kladn\u00ed vozidla nebo osobn\u00ed vozidla \"ces\u0165\u00e1k\u016f\" kte\u0159\u00ed denn\u011b najedou v\u00fdrazn\u011b v\u00edc km ne\u017e je dojezd bateriov\u00fdch elektromobil\u016f. Pro norm\u00e1ln\u00ed soukrom\u00e9 pou\u017eit\u00ed, kdy lid\u00e9 v pr\u016fm\u011bru denn\u011b najezd\u00ed kolem 50 nebo 100 km, bude jist\u011b sta\u010dit bateriov\u00fd elektromobil. Tedy jestli zlevn\u00ed na hodnotu, aby si je mohli koupit t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 ka\u017ed\u00fd. Kolem 1.000.000 K\u010d je to na m\u016fj vkus st\u00e1le moc vysok\u00e1 cena.   Kdy\u017e elektromobil 8 let star\u00fd s re\u00e1ln\u00fdm dojezdem kolem 100 km dnes stoj\u00ed kolem 300.000 K\u010d, tak se mi to zd\u00e1 tak\u00e9 jako dosti vysok\u00e1 cena. Takhle se ty elektromobily budou dlouho prosazovat.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5808\" data-id=\"5808\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">P.<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-15T10:25:09+02:00\">15.\u20096.\u20092020 10:25<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Vzhledem k aktu\u00e1ln\u00edm a budouc\u00edm komplikac\u00edm v cel\u00e9m automotivu, kter\u00e9 se \u0159e\u0161ily u\u017e p\u0159ed koronavirem a te\u010f se jen stup\u0148uj\u00ed, je re\u00e1ln\u00fd v\u00fdvoj vod\u00edkov\u00fdch aut hodn\u011b vzd\u00e1len\u00fd. Nav\u00edc krom\u011b rychlej\u0161\u00edho dopl\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed paliva neposkytuje proti elektromobilu \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 v\u00fdhody (ekologick\u00e9 faktory rad\u0161i nekomentuju, o ekologii stejn\u011b nikdy ne\u0161lo a nikdy nep\u016fjde). Vod\u00edk vid\u00edm jako cestu pro n\u00e1kla\u010f\u00e1ky, jako b\u011b\u017en\u00e1 vozidla asi ne-e.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5813\" data-id=\"5813\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">JirkaM<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-15T21:15:05+02:00\">15.\u20096.\u20092020 21:15<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Za m\u011b je vod\u00edk v osob\u00e1ku slep\u00e1 v\u011btev. To \u010deho se chci u norm\u00e1ln\u00edho auta zbavit je b\u00fdt z\u00e1visl\u00fd na t\u0159et\u00ed stran\u011b (\u010derpac\u00ed stanici) a to jak se kdo vysp\u00ed a zm\u011bn\u00ed to cenu nafty\/benz\u00ednu. Vzhledem k tomu \u017ee m\u00e1m RD m\u00e1m mo\u017enost fotovoltaiky a t\u00edm p\u00e1dem i \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00e9 samostatnosti co se dopl\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed \"paliva\" t\u00fd\u010de. U vod\u00edku by to bylo jak z bl\u00e1ta do lou\u017ee a je\u0161t\u011b bych musel hledat nejbli\u017e\u0161\u00ed vod\u00edkovou \u010derpac\u00ed stanici.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5817\" data-id=\"5817\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Hanz<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-15T23:13:39+02:00\">15.\u20096.\u20092020 23:13<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Tak vod\u00edkov\u00e1 auta budoucnost, dle m\u00e9ho, st\u00e1le maj\u00ed, ale mus\u00ed se zm\u011bnit legislativa a hlavn\u011b u\u017e n\u011bkdo mus\u00ed pro\u0161lapat akumul\u00e1torovou lobby. M\u00e1m ale na mysli vod\u00edkov\u00e1 auta, vod\u00edk spaluj\u00edc\u00ed v \"b\u011b\u017en\u00e9m\" spalovac\u00edm motoru, ne v palivov\u00e9m \u010dl\u00e1nku. BMW m\u011blo nap\u0159. u E68 u\u017e v podstat\u011b v\u0161echno hotov\u00e9, jen vzniklo v blb\u00e9 dob\u011b, kdy pr\u00e1v\u011b lithiov\u00e1 lobby za\u010dala nab\u00edrat na s\u00edle a tahle n\u00e1dhera vy\u0161um\u011bla do ztracena.<br \/>\nDokonce m\u011bli u\u017e po\u0159e\u0161en\u00e9 i tankov\u00e1n\u00ed, kde ze za\u010d\u00e1tku bylo z bezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch d\u016fvod\u016f pln\u011b automatick\u00e9, ale \u010dasem se vyvinulo na, v podstat\u011b (zjednodu\u0161en\u011b), srovnateln\u00e9 s tankov\u00e1n\u00edm LPG. <br \/>\nJasn\u011b, v\u011bt\u0161ina lid\u00ed nam\u00edtne, \u017ee skladov\u00e1n\u00ed a distribuce vod\u00edku je probl\u00e9m, kv\u016fli tlaku a teplot\u011b (a zase zjednodu\u0161en\u011b), kdyby ale v\u00fdvoj pokra\u010doval, tak bychom te\u010f m\u00edsto nab\u00edje\u010dek a nedostate\u010dn\u00e9 dimenzovanosti rozvodn\u00e9 s\u00edt\u011b u\u017e d\u00e1vno m\u011bli kde vod\u00edk tankovat.<br \/>\nDal\u0161\u00ed argumenty, jako drah\u00e1 v\u00fdroba a distribuce by samoz\u0159ejm\u011b vzaly za sv\u00e9 stejn\u011b, jako by tomu logicky m\u011blo doj\u00edt i u aut na baterky. Schv\u00e1ln\u011b p\u00ed\u0161u \"m\u011blo by\", proto\u017ee ta stejn\u00e1 lobby, kter\u00fd poh\u0159bila Hydrogen7 nem\u00e1 rozhodn\u011b z\u00e1jem na tom, aby se elektromobilita stala \"levn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed\". To je kr\u00e1sn\u011b vid\u011bt na cest\u011b, jakou se vydala (st\u00e1tn\u00ed dotace, legislativn\u00ed podpora,...)<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5823\" data-id=\"5823\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Venca<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">2<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-16T10:09:33+02:00\">16.\u20096.\u20092020 10:09<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Panebo\u017ee. Technologie na principu spalov\u00e1n\u00ed vod\u00edku v klasick\u00e9m motoru byl \u0161patn\u00fd n\u00e1pad u\u017e p\u0159ed t\u011bmi 15 lety a ne\u010dekal jsem, \u017ee ho dnes v roce 2020 bude je\u0161t\u011b n\u011bkdo obhajovat. To BMW E68 m\u011blo spot\u0159ebu asi 4kg\/100km. To p\u0159i dne\u0161n\u00ed cen\u011b cca 250K\u010d\/kg d\u00e1v\u00e1 kr\u00e1sn\u00fdch 10k\u010d\/km. Tak\u017ee cena vod\u00edku by musela klesnout asi 3 kr\u00e1t aby se vyrovnala cen\u011b spot\u0159eby benzinov\u00e9ho motoru a asi 10 kr\u00e1t aby se vyrovnala cen\u011b spot\u0159eby elekt\u0159iny u EV. <br \/>\n<br \/>\nOno d\u00e1 rozum, \u017ee kdy\u017e na v\u00fdrobu vod\u00edku, na kter\u00fd by se ujelo p\u0159es palivov\u00e9 \u010dl\u00e1nky 100km spot\u0159ebujete elekt\u0159inu, na kterou byste ujel asi 350km, \u017ee to prost\u011b nem\u00e1 smysl a to maj\u00ed palivov\u00e9 \u010dl\u00e1nky \u00fa\u010dinnost a\u017e 70% co\u017e je z\u00e1sadn\u011b v\u00edce ne\u017e p\u0159i sp\u00e1len\u00ed v motoru.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nVod\u00edk m\u00e1 smysl z principu pouze tam, kde nem\u00e1te \u0161anci nab\u00edjet elekt\u0159inou na p\u0159\u00edmo. To znamen\u00e1 u zaoce\u00e1nsk\u00fdch lod\u00ed a letadel na del\u0161\u00ed vzd\u00e1lenosti a ve vesm\u00edru.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5836\" data-id=\"5836\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Hanz<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-17T08:26:37+02:00\">17.\u20096.\u20092020 08:26<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">A to je p\u0159esn\u011b to, o \u010dem jsem psal...<br \/>\nDob\u0159e, p\u0159id\u00e1m krom\u011b distribuce a skladov\u00e1n\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b cenu. Pokud by se m\u00edsto p\u0159ekotn\u00e9ho a mnohdy i bezhlav\u00e9ho investov\u00e1n\u00ed do elektromobility investovalo d\u00e1l pr\u00e1v\u011b do vod\u00edku na spalov\u00e1n\u00ed, byla by u\u017e dnes i cena n\u011bkde jinde. Proto\u017ee pokud se chcete prim\u00e1rn\u011b bavit o cen\u011b, elekt\u0159ina je ZAT\u00cdM relativn\u011b levn\u00e1 a jasn\u011b, fotovoltaiku si m\u016f\u017ee ud\u011blat doma ka\u017ed\u00fd s\u00e1m, ale i kdy\u017e si ji d\u00e1m na st\u0159echu, tak si ji taky nejd\u0159\u00edv mus\u00edm koupit... A to jsou n\u00e1klady, kter\u00e9 mus\u00edm p\u0159ipo\u010d\u00edtat ke spot\u0159eb\u011b. U vod\u00edkov\u00e9ho auta si nic nav\u00edc kupovat nemus\u00edm.<br \/>\nA kdo si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee v moment\u011b, kdy se z elektroaut stane masovka, st\u00e1t nezdan\u00ed i t\u0159eba dom\u00e1c\u00ed nab\u00edjen\u00ed pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u0159eba z t\u00e9 vlastn\u00ed fotovoltaiky, tak je naivn\u00ed bl\u00e1zen. O tom, \u017ee rapidn\u011b vzroste cena elekt\u0159iny z \"b\u011b\u017en\u00e9\" distribuce a biti na tom budou t\u00edm p\u00e1dem samoz\u0159ejm\u011b i ti, kte\u0159\u00ed ani elektroauto nevlastn\u00ed, snad nemus\u00edm ani dod\u00e1vat...<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5838\" data-id=\"5838\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Venca<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">2<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-17T09:51:56+02:00\">17.\u20096.\u20092020 09:51<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Vy jste nepochopil z\u00e1kladn\u00ed my\u0161lenku. Investovat m\u016f\u017eete jak chcete, ale energie z vod\u00edku bude st\u00e1le n\u00e1sobn\u011b dra\u017e\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e energie p\u0159\u00edmo z elekt\u0159iny. Na tom pad\u00e1 cel\u00e1 ekonomika vod\u00edkov\u00fdch palivov\u00fdch \u010dl\u00e1nk\u016f. Vy nav\u00edc chcete ten draze z\u00edskan\u00fd vod\u00edk p\u00e1lit v aut\u011b s mizernou \u00fa\u010dinnost\u00ed, tak\u017ee to pad\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b v\u00edce.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nTaky jsem moc nepochopil do \u010deho chcete vlastn\u011b investovat. Spalovac\u00ed motor u\u017e o moc \u00fa\u010dinn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed nebude, tam jsme po v\u00edce jak 100 letech v\u00fdvoje v podstat\u011b na hranici mo\u017enost\u00ed. Kompresi vod\u00edku nebo jeho zchlazen\u00ed taky nijak neobejdete. Vod\u00edk se d\u00e1 vyrobit z fosiln\u00edch paliv co\u017e nen\u00ed moc \u010dist\u00e9 a relativn\u011b drah\u00e9 nebo z elekt\u0159iny z obnoviteln\u00fdch zdroj\u016f co\u017e je je\u0161t\u011b dra\u017e\u0161\u00ed.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nAbych to \u00fapln\u011b zobecnil. Jak\u00e1koliv p\u0159em\u011bna energie jednoho zdroje na enegii jin\u00e9ho sebou p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00ed ztr\u00e1ty. Prost\u011b nevyrob\u00edte pomoc\u00ed benzinu, na kter\u00fd byste ujel 100 km mno\u017estv\u00ed vod\u00edku, na kter\u00fd byste ujel tak\u00e9 100 km. To je u\u017e efektivn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed jet p\u0159\u00edmo na benzin. U elekt\u0159iny je to to sam\u00e9.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nKlidn\u011b a\u0165 st\u00e1t za p\u00e1r let zdan\u00ed tu elekt\u0159inu. M\u00edsto 4K\u010d\/kWh budeme platit t\u0159eba 8 nebo 10 no b\u00f3\u017ee. Klidn\u011b t\u011bch 500K\u010d(pouze 2 % pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 mzdy) nav\u00edc za m\u011bs\u00edc za spot\u0159ebu v byt\u011b zaplat\u00edm a stejn\u011b vyjde levn\u011bji jezdit s EV ne\u017e s spalovac\u00edm autem. Za to ticho a \u010dist\u00fd vzduch ve m\u011bst\u011b mi to stoj\u00ed a klidn\u011b bych to platil i kdy\u017e bych EV nem\u011bl a klidn\u011b i za sousedku.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5839\" data-id=\"5839\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Hanz<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-17T12:21:43+02:00\">17.\u20096.\u20092020 12:21<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Va\u0161e n\u00e1zory maj\u00ed svou logiku, to je pravda.<br \/>\nJe pravdou, \u017ee z\u00edsk\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed vod\u00edku je velmi drah\u00e9 a \u00fa\u010dinnost spalovac\u00edch motor\u016f je oproti elektromotoru taky ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed, nicm\u00e9n\u011b pominu-li v\u00fdrobu elekt\u0159iny z obnoviteln\u00fdch zdroj\u016f, kter\u00e1 nikdy nebude schopn\u00e1 pokr\u00fdt (mysl\u00edm si) ani polovinu spot\u0159eby, tak s tou efektivitou v\u00fdroby a nakonec i cenou (nejen zdan\u011bn\u00edm, ale i zisky v\u0161ech, co se na tom, ne\u017e z \"gener\u00e1toru\" dojde na kola va\u0161eho EV, pod\u00edl\u00ed) dostaneme do hodn\u011b podobn\u00fdch \u010d\u00edsel. Akor\u00e1t, \u017ee ta efektivita bude na aut\u011b (pl\u00e1cnu) 85%, ale ne\u017e se k v\u00e1m od t\u011b\u017eby \u010dehokoliv p\u0159es v\u00fdrobu dostane, tak klesne na (zase pl\u00e1cnu) na 40%.<br \/>\nJe to \u00fapln\u011b stejn\u00e9, jako emise EV. Provoz (pominu li v\u00fdrobu, proto\u017ee i \"norm\u00e1ln\u00ed\" auto se taky mus\u00ed vyrobit) sice lok\u00e1ln\u011b bez emis\u00ed je, nicm\u00e9n\u011b ty emise jsou a a\u010d chcete, nebo ne, je\u0161t\u011b dlouho budou, n\u011bkde jinde. Tak\u017ee to je jenom takov\u00fd to: uklid\u00ed si na zahrad\u011b, m\u00e1m to tu kr\u00e1sn\u00fd, ale ten bordel jsem nach\u00e1zel p\u0159es plot k sousedovi a ten a\u0165 se posere... J\u00e1 m\u00e1m uklizeno...<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5840\" data-id=\"5840\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Venca<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-17T13:49:17+02:00\">17.\u20096.\u20092020 13:49<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">M\u00e1te pravdu. Ztr\u00e1ty jsou v cel\u00e9m \u0159et\u011bzci pom\u011brn\u011b vysok\u00e9 i u EV(od elektr\u00e1rny na kola asi 30 % ztr\u00e1t), ale s t\u00edm se mus\u00edme n\u011bjak poprat, proto\u017ee u v\u0161ech ostatn\u00edch zdroj\u016f jsou je\u0161t\u011b vy\u0161\u0161\u00ed.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nOhledn\u011b emis\u00ed m\u00e1te tak\u00e9 pravdu. N\u011bjak\u00e9 emise jsou v\u017edy, ale jde o to kolik jich je a jestli jsou uprost\u0159ed m\u011bsta nebo n\u011bkde za m\u011bstem. <br \/>\n<br \/>\nJestli v\u00e1s toto t\u00e9ma zaj\u00edm\u00e1, tak tady je odkaz na webovou aplikaci (pouze v angli\u010dtin\u011b) vytvo\u0159en\u00e1 v\u011bdci z Lucembursk\u00e9ho institutu technologi\u00ed, kde si m\u016f\u017eete nastavit typ EV a spalovac\u00edho auto a spoustu dal\u0161\u00edch parametr\u016f a ona v\u00e1m uk\u00e1\u017ee kolik emis\u00ed je pot\u0159eba na jeho v\u00fdrobu a provoz.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nhttps:\/\/ climobil.connecting-project .lu<br \/>\n<br \/>\n(vyma\u017ete v odkazu mezery)<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5841\" data-id=\"5841\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Hanz<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-17T15:08:17+02:00\">17.\u20096.\u20092020 15:08<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">A stejn\u011b tak, jak se mus\u00edme poprat se ztr\u00e1tami u EV, kter\u00e9 jste uv\u00e1d\u011bl, bylo by nutn\u00e9 a v\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee i mo\u017en\u00e9 se poprat se se (skoro) v\u0161emi negativy spalov\u00e1n\u00ed vod\u00edku.<br \/>\nZd\u00e1nliv\u011b odbo\u010d\u00edm... V\u00edte, co se t\u0159eba d\u011bje s katalyz\u00e1tory, kter\u00e9 jsou za svou \u017eivotnost\u00ed? (velmi zjednodu\u0161en\u011b) posb\u00edran\u00e9 se nalo\u017e\u00ed na lo\u010f a odvezou se do m\u00edst, kde se t\u011b\u017e\u00ed kovy, kter\u00e9 se do nich pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed. Tam se \"zrecykluj\u00ed\" tak, \u017ee se z nich ty drah\u00e9 kovy vyte\u017e\u00ed, vr\u00e1t\u00ed se k n\u00e1m a ten nejhor\u0161\u00ed odpad z\u016fstane tam. V\u011bt\u0161inou se jedn\u00e1 o velmi chud\u00e9, rozvojov\u00e9 st\u00e1ty... Zase, jako s t\u011bmi emisemi. K \u010demu je dobr\u00e9 \u017ee nejsou ve m\u011bst\u011b, kdy\u017e jsou stejn\u011b jsou? Je to dobr\u00e9 jen pro to m\u011bsto, v glob\u00e1lu je to, pra\u0161\u0165, jako uho\u010f.<br \/>\nZa odkazy d\u011bkuji, ur\u010dit\u011b se na n\u011b pod\u00edv\u00e1m.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5851\" data-id=\"5851\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10213846994796350\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/v2.7\/10213846994796350\/picture?redirect=1&width=50\" alt=\"Vladim\u00edr Cejvik B\u00edlek\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10213846994796350\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Vladim\u00edr Cejvik B\u00edlek<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-20T11:44:14+02:00\">20.\u20096.\u20092020 11:44<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">\u017d\u00e1dn\u00fd elektropohon nep\u0159ekonal ekonomicky nebo ekologicky bioplyn\/CNG. T\u011b\u017e\u0161\u00ed baterie znamen\u00e1 d\u0159\u00edv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed opot\u0159eben\u00ed  pneumatik, lo\u017eisek atd. Vod\u00edk se vyr\u00e1b\u00ed z CNG v\u011bt\u0161inou.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post5860\" data-id=\"5860\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><span class=\"icon icon--account_circle\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><span class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Diego<\/span><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2020-06-22T21:38:26+02:00\">22.\u20096.\u20092020 21:38<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Super. N\u00e1dr\u017e 156,6 litr\u016f zab\u00edr\u00e1 i 1\/3 kufru, abych ujel 666 km.<br \/>\nKapaln\u00fd vod\u00edk, pokud ho vyrob\u00edm z ropy, tak se dostanu s \u00fa\u010dinnost\u00ed n\u011bkam ke 12%. Elektrol\u00fdzou jsem n\u011bkde kolem 5%. A ka\u017ed\u00fd den se mi odpa\u0159\u00ed cca 4% hmotnosti, a\u0165 jezd\u00edm nebo nejezd\u00edm.<br \/>\nA\u0165 po\u010d\u00edt\u00e1m, jak po\u010d\u00edt\u00e1m. M\u011b se lib\u00ed Tesla v\u00edc.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","url":null}