{"content":"<div class=\"discussion__comments\"><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18809\" data-id=\"18809\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/v2.7\/10222401298533332\/picture?redirect=1&width=50\" alt=\"Jan Jakub\u00edk\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Jan Jakub\u00edk<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-04-30T17:32:07+02:00\">30.\u20094.\u20092024 17:32<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Je to o pen\u011bz\u00edch, respektive o tom, co si \u010dlov\u011bk m\u016f\u017ee re\u00e1ln\u011b dovolit ze sv\u00e9 pen\u011b\u017eenky. A\u017e budou bazary pln\u00e9 EV za 250 tis. K\u010d, kter\u00e1 budou dostate\u010dn\u011b velk\u00e1 pro rodinu a budou m\u00edt dojezd 300-350km, tak bude ochota kupovat ojet\u00e1 EV \u00fapln\u011b jinde.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18811\" data-id=\"18811\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-105830688300683217746\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a-\/AOh14Gg4yg9kFy1P-oyUUArMnLiXtJWO2n3o82F3tdnv?sz=50\" alt=\"Mario Kova\u010di\u010d\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-105830688300683217746\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Mario Kova\u010di\u010d<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">3<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-04-30T21:26:50+02:00\">30.\u20094.\u20092024 21:26<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Bohu\u017eia\u013e si nemysl\u00edm \u017ee to bude tak\u00e9 ide\u00e1lne.  Na Slovensku a aj v \u010cesku  koluj\u00fa dezinform\u00e1cie ak\u00e9 s\u00fa elektromobily stra\u0161n\u00e9. A bohu\u017eia\u013e ve\u013emi ve\u013ea \u013eud\u00ed tomu ver\u00ed. Dnes sa \u017eena na zmienila \u017ee m\u00e1me z\u00e1ujem o elektro a hne\u010f \u017ee to sa kaz\u00ed, drah\u00e9 opravy, bat\u00e9ria ni\u010d nevydr\u017e\u00ed, hodiny a\u017e dni na nab\u00edja\u010dke a najlep\u0161ie len do mesta. Ka\u017ed\u00fd kto sa skuto\u010dne zauj\u00edma o elektromobilitu vie \u017ee s\u00fa to klamstv\u00e1 a polopravdy. Najlep\u0161ie by asi bolo podpori\u0165 firemn\u00e9 n\u00e1kupy. Tam by si to \u013eudia vysk\u00fa\u0161ali a zistili \u017ee elektromobil je tie\u017e auto. treba len zmeni\u0165 n\u00e1vyky a d\u00e1 sa pou\u017e\u00edva\u0165 bez v\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00edch obmedzen\u00ed. Ale v prvom rade treba nab\u00edja\u010dky hlavne pri bytoch preto\u017ee tam je to e\u0161te probl\u00e9m a \u010dlovek sa mus\u00ed trochu prisp\u00f4sobi\u0165.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18813\" data-id=\"18813\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/v2.7\/10222401298533332\/picture?redirect=1&width=50\" alt=\"Jan Jakub\u00edk\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Jan Jakub\u00edk<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T01:00:48+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 01:00<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">To se za p\u00e1r let (5-10) zm\u011bn\u00ed.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18815\" data-id=\"18815\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/AATXAJwfSYR7mGCCGWRTIsw9HCZ8I7NPSOmGEW8hWiCT=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Michal Michal\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Michal Michal<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T11:29:34+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 11:29<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Ot\u00e1zkou je, zda cena EV m\u016f\u017ee klesnout pod cenu baterie jako kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00e9ho n\u00e1hradn\u00edho d\u00edlu. M\u016fj p\u0159edpoklad je, \u017ee to m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt jen u EV, o kter\u00e9 je velmi n\u00edzk\u00fd z\u00e1jem. Ale u masov\u00fdch model\u016f ne. Hodn\u011b to bude z\u00e1le\u017eet na tom, zda se roz\u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed nez\u00e1visl\u00e1 druhov\u00fdroba a opravy bateri\u00ed, co\u017e by cenu bateri\u00ed sn\u00ed\u017eilo.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18816\" data-id=\"18816\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/v2.7\/10222401298533332\/picture?redirect=1&width=50\" alt=\"Jan Jakub\u00edk\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Jan Jakub\u00edk<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T12:54:31+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 12:54<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee se m\u016f\u017eeme se pod\u00edvat na sapolovac\u00ed auta. U mnoha aut v bazarech klesla cena pod cenu t\u0159eba nov\u00e9ho motoru dan\u00e9ho vozu (180-250 tis. K\u010d). V tom probl\u00e9m nevid\u00edm. Hlavn\u011b nov\u00e9 baterie budou m\u00edt co p\u00e1r let lep\u0161\u00ed parametry, tak pro\u010d baz\u00edrovat na t\u011bch star\u00fdch, zamontovan\u00fdch v autech s men\u0161\u00ed kapacitou a hor\u0161\u00ed k\u0159ivkou dob\u00edjen\u00ed. A ceny nov\u00fdch bateri\u00ed jednou tak rapidn\u011b klesnou ( LFP \/ SOD\u00cdKOV\u00c9 a mo\u017en\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b jin\u00e9), a\u017e bude na trhu p\u0159etlak s nov\u00fdmi bateriemi, \u017ee to bude nejsp\u00ed\u0161 nevyhnuteln\u00e9, ale na takovou situaci si budeme muset opravdu roky po\u010dkat. Bude se to chovat jako ka\u017ed\u00e9 masov\u00e9 zbo\u017e\u00ed. Ob\u010das si taky vzpomenu na cenu po\u010d\u00edta\u010d\u016f nebo mobiln\u00edch telefon\u016f. Je to n\u011bco, co bude v pr\u016fb\u011bhu \u010dasu st\u00e1le zlev\u0148ovat a nab\u00edrat lep\u0161\u00edch parametr\u016f. Akor\u00e1t, co jsme vid\u011blu u chytr\u00fdch mobil\u016f, nebo po\u010d\u00edta\u010d\u016f, tady bude trvat d\u00e9le, jeliko\u017e v\u00fdroba auta nebo baterie je p\u0159ece jenom n\u00e1kladn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed proces. M\u016fj osobn\u00ed n\u00e1zor amat\u00e9rsk\u00e9ho ekonoma. :-)<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18819\" data-id=\"18819\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/AATXAJwfSYR7mGCCGWRTIsw9HCZ8I7NPSOmGEW8hWiCT=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Michal Michal\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Michal Michal<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T14:47:18+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 14:47<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__updated\">Naposledy upraveno: 1.\u20095.\u20092024 14:48<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Nezn\u00e1m nikoho, kdo by n\u011bkdy p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lel o tom, \u017ee by si kupoval nov\u00fd motor za 200 tisic. \u0158e\u0161\u00ed se to bu\u010f opravou nebo motorem z vrakovi\u0161t\u011b za mnohem ni\u017e\u0161\u00ed \u010d\u00e1stky. A u v\u011bt\u0161iny aut n\u011bco takov\u00e9ho nikdy nen\u00ed pot\u0159eba, proto\u017ee d\u0159\u00edve zreznou na prach, ne\u017e odejde motor. Baterie je v principu spot\u0159ebn\u00ed d\u00edl a degraduje i \u010dasem. Podot\u00fdk\u00e1m, \u017ee pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 st\u00e1\u0159\u00ed auta v \u010cR je n\u011bkde kolem 15 let, mezi soukrom\u00fdmi majiteli kolem 20 let. Se spot\u0159ebn\u00ed elektronikou to nelze srovn\u00e1vat kv\u016fli cen\u011b. Telefon vyhod\u00edte za 3 nebo 4 roky. Auto nikoliv, to by v\u00e1s pak 1km vy\u0161el dr\u00e1\u017e ne\u017e tax\u00edk s \u0159idi\u010dem. Nez\u00e1visl\u00e1 druhov\u00fdroba a opravy m\u016f\u017eou ekonomikou BEV zna\u010dn\u011b vylep\u0161it.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18821\" data-id=\"18821\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/v2.7\/10222401298533332\/picture?redirect=1&width=50\" alt=\"Jan Jakub\u00edk\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Jan Jakub\u00edk<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T16:06:13+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 16:06<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Ty baterie tak p\u016fjde opravovat. Nebudou se platit zcela nov\u00e9, mysl\u00edm si.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18833\" data-id=\"18833\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-fIHsS3PNfXk\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AMZuucnAqJnagKXWQWDaAripfpfOYphYfA\/s96-c\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Dini Dini\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Dini Dini<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T08:51:25+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 08:51<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">V tom vid\u00edm probl\u00e9m. Baterka st\u00e1rne \u010dasem a pokud po p\u011bti letech bude n\u011bkde okolo 85% kapacity a odejde \u010dl\u00e1nek, oprav\u00edte ho, nicm\u00e9n\u011b z\u016fstanete na t\u00e9 hodnot\u011b 85%. A tak to p\u016fjde s tou baterkou d\u00e1l a d\u00e1l... Nelze to srovn\u00e1vat s Modelem S, na kter\u00e9m tesla ty baterky v\u011bt\u0161inou m\u011bn\u00ed v neomezen\u00e9 z\u00e1ruce.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18830\" data-id=\"18830\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-108541764379217095891\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/ACg8ocIUtD25nxw0qFcJRIeK3NYbiR2XPgM4BLPOVRUAvxjN=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Pavel \u017dern\u00ed\u010dek\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-108541764379217095891\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Pavel \u017dern\u00ed\u010dek<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T06:19:45+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 06:19<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__updated\">Naposledy upraveno: 2.\u20095.\u20092024 06:20<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Do jeden\u00e1ct let star\u00e9 x5 jsem nechal d\u00e1t novou p\u0159evodovku za 150tis. Byla to prvn\u00ed generace, rv2005, ode\u0161la v roce 2016 po necel\u00fdch 180tis.<br \/>\nTohle se u BEV nestane, teda mysl\u00edm.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18834\" data-id=\"18834\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-fIHsS3PNfXk\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AMZuucnAqJnagKXWQWDaAripfpfOYphYfA\/s96-c\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Dini Dini\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Dini Dini<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T08:53:10+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 08:53<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Tak stejn\u011b jako je divn\u00fd, \u017ee ode\u0161la po 180k p\u0159evodovka a nen\u00ed to b\u011b\u017en\u00e9, tak u toho BEV odejde baterka. A stejn\u011b jaks to ty nechal vym\u011bnit v autoriz\u00e1ku nebo za nov\u00fd d\u00edl od BMW, bude ta baterka st\u00e1t 750tis - pochop.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18858\" data-id=\"18858\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/AATXAJwfSYR7mGCCGWRTIsw9HCZ8I7NPSOmGEW8hWiCT=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Michal Michal\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Michal Michal<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T19:08:52+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 19:08<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Pavel \u017dern\u00ed\u010dek:<br \/>\nAutomatick\u00e9 p\u0159evodovky jsou v praxi choulostiv\u011bj\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e motory. Nem\u011bl jste tam p\u0159evodovku GM 5L40E? Ta byla svou malou \u017eivotnost\u00ed vyhl\u00e1\u0161en\u00e1.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18823\" data-id=\"18823\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/-UoxOOJBsEU4\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAks\/F5Mb3Nin8pU\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Josef L\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Josef L<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T19:38:41+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 19:38<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Mysl\u00edm \u017ee ji\u017e dnes je \u00fapln\u011b zbyte\u010dn\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161it budouc\u00ed v\u00fdm\u011bnu baterie, ta p\u0159e\u017eije auto. Jedin\u00e9 co se bude \u0159e\u0161it je v\u00fdm\u011bna n\u011bjak\u00e9ho modulu, kde bude vadn\u00fd \u010dl\u00e1nek a to bude st\u00e1t jako v\u00fdm\u011bna turba.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18824\" data-id=\"18824\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/AATXAJwfSYR7mGCCGWRTIsw9HCZ8I7NPSOmGEW8hWiCT=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Michal Michal\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-114325898255042617288\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Michal Michal<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T21:07:13+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 21:07<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__updated\">Naposledy upraveno: 1.\u20095.\u20092024 21:08<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Zase takov\u00fd optimista bych nebyl. P\u0159e\u017e\u00edt ve zdrav\u00ed 15 \u010di v\u00edce let provozu nen\u00ed pro baterku (\u010dl\u00e1nky) jednoduch\u00e9 a to ani v na\u0161ich pom\u011brn\u011b p\u0159\u00edzniv\u00fdch klimatick\u00fdch podm\u00ednk\u00e1ch. Av\u0161ak v\u00fdvoj baterek pro BEV sm\u011b\u0159uje k cell-to-pack bateri\u00edm, kde moduly nebudou a nep\u016fjde je tedy m\u011bnit.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18827\" data-id=\"18827\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/-UoxOOJBsEU4\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAks\/F5Mb3Nin8pU\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Josef L\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Josef L<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T21:37:14+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 21:37<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__updated\">Naposledy upraveno: 1.\u20095.\u20092024 21:40<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Nad 15 let star\u00e1 auta pat\u0159\u00ed do \u0161rotu, pokud to nen\u00ed veter\u00e1n.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18831\" data-id=\"18831\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-110622664843945410783\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/-TqXDUDX8xIM\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AMZuuclegLbJwvfyfrSFPfohWvVkrgejjg\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Martin Lacina\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-110622664843945410783\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Martin Lacina<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T06:41:19+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 06:41<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__updated\">Naposledy upraveno: 2.\u20095.\u20092024 06:48<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Svagr prijel pred par dny na navstevu z Moravy dvojkovou Octavii, kterou jsem koupil v roce 2006 jako fungl novou a o ctyri roky pozdeji jsem mu ji s najezdem 200tis.km prodal. <br \/>\nMa ji do dnes, ma najeto skoro pul milionu km a je na ni temer vse puvodni. <br \/>\n<br \/>\nPatnact let stara auta, vyrobena jeste pred ekonomickou krizi z roku 2008, po ktere zacaly automobilky nesmyslne setrit (mysleno sidit) jsou aktualne jedny z nejspolehlivejsich aut na silnicich. Naprosto chapu proc si je lide nechavaji. <br \/>\n<br \/>\nNutno, ale dodat, ze tehdy to auto stalo 35ti nasobek prumerne hrube mzdy a byl to v podstate holobyt. Dnes vychazi jeji cena v zakladu na cca 15ti nasobek mesicni hrube mzdy. <br \/>\n<br \/>\nMuzeme si zaspekulovat jestli se nam tak zvysila zivotni uroven, nebo jsou ta auta tak osizena na kvalite.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18818\" data-id=\"18818\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-101763584579105998619\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/ACg8ocLoX8XAEEseolng5IFtN2qiOPS_yf5KatQ0psD2dkqa=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Michal Oplu\u0161til\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-101763584579105998619\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Michal Oplu\u0161til<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T13:56:51+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 13:56<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Jsem zast\u00e1ncem EV jako alternativy, ale taky m\u00e1m plat nad \u010desk\u00fdm pr\u016fm\u011brem. Rodina co m\u00e1 dva pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 platy, hypot\u00e9ku v dne\u0161n\u00edch cen\u00e1ch a chce n\u011bjak slu\u0161n\u011b vychov\u00e1vat d\u011bti, tak mu na rozumn\u00e9 by\u0165 lehce ojet\u00e9 plnohodnotn\u00e9 EV za cca 800tisic prost\u011b nezbude i kdyby cht\u011bl \ud83d\ude15<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18822\" data-id=\"18822\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/v2.7\/10222401298533332\/picture?redirect=1&width=50\" alt=\"Jan Jakub\u00edk\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/f-10222401298533332\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Jan Jakub\u00edk<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-01T16:48:43+02:00\">1.\u20095.\u20092024 16:48<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Michale, lidi mimo Prahu velmi \u010dasto nemaj\u00ed ani ty pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 platy.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18836\" data-id=\"18836\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/-UoxOOJBsEU4\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAks\/F5Mb3Nin8pU\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Josef L\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Josef L<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T09:02:33+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 09:02<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Letos jsem vyu\u017eil slu\u017eby \u0159emesln\u00edk\u016f ve St\u0159edo\u010desk\u00e9m kraji, pod 1000 K\u010d na hodinu ne\u0161el nikdo, n\u011bkte\u0159\u00ed byli dra\u017e\u0161\u00ed, rekord byl z\u00e1me\u010dn\u00edk, cht\u011bl 1500 na hodinu.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18835\" data-id=\"18835\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-fIHsS3PNfXk\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AMZuucnAqJnagKXWQWDaAripfpfOYphYfA\/s96-c\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Dini Dini\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Dini Dini<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T08:59:55+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 08:59<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Nech\u00e1pu, jak n\u011bkdo s \u010desk\u00fdm nadpr\u016fm\u011brn\u00fdm platem (nap\u0159\u00edklad + 50%) m\u016f\u017ee d\u00e1t takov\u00fd \u010d\u00e1stky za auto. Bu\u010f si to vezme na oper\u00e1k za 240\/rok nebo d\u00e1 ro\u010dn\u00ed plat za pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00e9 EV - oboj\u00ed \u0161\u00edlenost. Takov\u00e9ho pom\u011bru bych se nerad do\u017eil.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18838\" data-id=\"18838\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh4.googleusercontent.com\/-UoxOOJBsEU4\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAks\/F5Mb3Nin8pU\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Josef L\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-100791536027882936958\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Josef L<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\">1<\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T11:10:32+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 11:10<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Bohu\u017eel to je kapitalismus, 70% \"\u017eivo\u0159\u00ed\" a zbytek si \u017eije nad pom\u011bry. P\u0159i\u0161la doba kdy vlastn\u00ed d\u016fm nebo byt je luxus, kter\u00fd si v\u011bt\u0161ina nem\u016f\u017ee dovolit koupit. Stejn\u011b tak to je s nov\u00fdmi auty.  Ve spole\u010dnosti se zako\u0159enil n\u00e1zor, \u017ee ka\u017ed\u00fd m\u00e1 pr\u00e1vo na auto a spole\u010dnost m\u00e1 povinnost to ka\u017ed\u00e9mu umo\u017enit.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18847\" data-id=\"18847\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104125024753957870663\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/ACg8ocIL1WtoRIuUr2CjvkgKWsaSZbq-GKLwjYqQeIyKM4V4=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"den\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104125024753957870663\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">den<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T13:25:43+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 13:25<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Jako kdyby za socialzmu kazdy mel narok na auto. Myslim to bylo jeste horsi.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18861\" data-id=\"18861\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-fIHsS3PNfXk\/AAAAAAAAAAI\/AAAAAAAAAAA\/AMZuucnAqJnagKXWQWDaAripfpfOYphYfA\/s96-c\/photo.jpg?sz=50\" alt=\"Dini Dini\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104829907590684305286\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Dini Dini<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-02T19:49:01+02:00\">2.\u20095.\u20092024 19:49<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Nj j\u00e1 jsem kapitalista a mo\u017en\u00e1 i vyko\u0159is'tovatel :-) ...ale nekopli jsme koman\u010de do prdele pr\u00e1v\u011b proto, abychom se m\u011bli l\u00edp? Jako taky m\u011b to nas\u00edr\u00e1...pro\u010d by nemohl na auto m\u00edt ka\u017ed\u00fd nebo na rozumn\u00fd bydlen\u00ed? T\u00edm mysl\u00edm pro\u010d se o to nesna\u017eit? Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b ne soci\u00e1ln\u00ed d\u00e1vkou nebo dikt\u00e1tem cen...<br \/>\nNejv\u00edc jsem si to asi uv\u011bdomil v USA. Kdy\u017e vyraz\u00edm j\u00e1 do USA, nem\u016f\u017eu si vlastn\u011b dovolit ve\u010de\u0159i pro 4 v luxusn\u00ed restauraci za 2500USD....ale kdy\u017e vyraz\u00ed pr\u016fm\u011brn\u00fd Am\u00edk k n\u00e1m, j\u00ed jenom v luxusn\u00edch restaurac\u00edch.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post18873\" data-id=\"18873\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104326954110518931676\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a-\/AOh14Gh6slCTRYx3FPSgZZYJu9o2FcJ4_hrWvEXKYWnJb5c=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Marek M.\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-104326954110518931676\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Marek M.<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-03T14:37:55+02:00\">3.\u20095.\u20092024 14:37<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">\"...pro\u010d by nemohl na auto m\u00edt ka\u017ed\u00fd nebo na rozumn\u00fd bydlen\u00ed?\"<br \/>\n<br \/>\nKdo se sna\u017e\u00ed, ten m\u00e1. J\u00e1 to vid\u00edm na sob\u011b, m\u00e1m vystudov\u00e1no to sam\u00e9, co m\u011bl m\u016fj otec, ale m\u00e1m se o dost l\u00e9pe. Kdy\u017e si vzpomenu, jak t\u00e1ta na auto \u0161et\u0159il, p\u0159idala i babi\u010dka s d\u011bdou a pak na auto \u010dekal dlouhou dobu, a\u017e nakonec byla doma vysn\u011bn\u00e1 zelen\u00e1 (barvu ne\u0161lo vybrat) \u0160120 :-)<br \/>\n<br \/>\nJ\u00e1 v\u00edm, \u017ee n\u00e9 ka\u017ed\u00fd m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt SW v\u00fdvoj\u00e1\u0159, ale ono se maj\u00ed dob\u0159e i \u0161ikovn\u00ed \u0159emesln\u00edci, i to vid\u00edm tady na vesnici a okol\u00ed, nebo mal\u00fd podnikatel, majitel servisu, holka, co vede e-shop, kde man\u017eelka nakupuje, atd., atd.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post19007\" data-id=\"19007\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/a-000267.91d4dfbe82984472ba2a1ba75561aa58.0530\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/AATXAJx_0ayK8oR0gpVbrcwG59rCjwUMatCbZ1r6HFX9-Q=s96-c\" alt=\"Martin\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/a-000267.91d4dfbe82984472ba2a1ba75561aa58.0530\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Martin<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-10T15:26:27+02:00\">10.\u20095.\u20092024 15:26<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">P\u0159esn\u011b tak, kdo se sna\u017e\u00ed m\u00e1 a kdo jen kec\u00e1 nem\u00e1.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment\" id=\"post19043\" data-id=\"19043\"  data-offtopic=\"0\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__avatar\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-101775711570247335037\" class=\"avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/a\/AEdFTp7Orlc0hud0Rk0VPSY14L5MM5ytCNFrvJRhqKrk=s96-c?sz=50\" alt=\"Petr Basa\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__content\"><div class=\"discussion__comment__credits\"><a href=\"\/uzivatele\/g-101775711570247335037\" class=\"discussion__comment__author\">Petr Basa<\/a><span class=\"discussion__comment__info\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"discussion__comment__like\" data-role=\"comment-like\"><span class=\"icon icon--thumb_up\"><\/span><span class=\"count\"><\/span><\/a><time class=\"updated\" datetime=\"2024-05-14T08:56:49+02:00\">14.\u20095.\u20092024 08:56<\/time><\/span><\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__comment\">Ekologie p\u0159ece nen\u00ed jedin\u00fd d\u016fvod k p\u0159echodu na elektromobilitu. P\u0159ip@sran\u00e1 politick\u00e1 korektnost. Sn\u00ed\u017een\u00ed z\u00e1vislosti na russ\u00e1ck\u00e9 rop\u011b, je minim\u00e1ln\u011b stejn\u011b v\u00fdznamn\u00fd d\u016fvod. Je to n\u011bco k \u010demu m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159isp\u011bt ka\u017ed\u00fd ob\u010dan, a pr\u00e1vem na to m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt hrd\u00fd.<\/div><div class=\"discussion__comment__actions\"><a href=\"#\" data-role=\"answer\">Odpov\u011bd\u011bt<\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","url":null}